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lesvegas
zuko-always-lies

Are You Opting Out of Tumblr Allowing Third Party AI Model's to Train on Your Data?

Yes

No

I hadn't heard of this before, but now I'll opt out

Show me the results!

I'm planning on abandoning tumblr and deleting my blogs

Other (please explain in the tags)

From instructions on how to opt out, look at the official staff post on the topic. It also gives more information on Tumblr's new policies. If you are opting out, remember to opt out each separate blog individually.

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So far: 34 votes, only 5 reblogs.

vaspider
copperbadge

AI Scraping Isn't Just Art And Fanfic

Something I haven't really seen mentioned and I think people may want to bear in mind is that while artists are the most heavily impacted by AI visual medium scraping, it's not like the machine knows or cares to differentiate between original art and a photograph of your child.

AI visual media scrapers take everything, and that includes screengrabs, photographs, and memes. Selfies, pictures of your pets and children, pictures of your home, screengrabs of images posted to other sites -- all of the comic book imagery I've posted that I screengrabbed from digital comics, images of tweets (including the icons of peoples' faces in those tweets) and instas and screengrabs from tiktoks. I've posted x-ray images of my teeth. All of that will go into the machine.

That's why, at least I think, Midjourney wants Tumblr -- after Instagram we are potentially the most image-heavy social media site, and like Instagram we tag our content, which is metadata that the scraper can use.

So even if you aren't an artist, unless you want to Glaze every image of any kind that you post, you probably want to opt out of being scraped. I'm gonna go ahead and say we've probably already been scraped anyway, so I don't think there's a ton of point in taking down your tumblr or locking down specific images, but I mean...especially if it's stuff like pictures of children or say, a fundraising photo that involves your medical data, it maybe can't hurt.

If you do want to officially opt out, which may help if there's a class-action lawsuit later, you're going to want to go to the gear in the upper-right corner on the Tumblr desktop site, select each of your blogs from the list on the right-hand side, and scroll down to "Visibility". Select "Prevent third party sharing for [username]" to flip that bad boy on.

Per notes: for the app, go to your blog (the part of the app that shows what you post) and hit the gear in the upper right, then select "visibility" and it will be the last option. If you have not updated your app, it will not appear (confirmed by me, who cannot see it on my elderly version of the app).

You don't need to do it on both desktop and mobile -- either one will opt you out -- but on the app you may need to load each of your sideblogs in turn and then go back into the gear and opt out for that blog, like how you have to go into the settings for each sideblog on desktop and do it.

threefeline
runawaymarbles

The thing I keep coming back to, with all the *gestures expansively* is that real life doesn't have peaceful epilogues.

Every single win has to be defended. Forever. I'm sorry. It sucks. The Nazis lost until they stopped losing. The US had abortion rights, and then 50 years later it didn't. Empires fall, and then they invade other countries again. Oppressive regimes are overthrown and replaced with other oppressive regimes. You will never finish the work etc etc etc. Which is why it's so fucking important to be able to acknowledge and celebrate progress, when it happens. The people who came before you didn't put in all that work for nothing, and you aren't, either. You can't save it all for the Ultimate Victory because there is never going to be an Ultimate Victory. There's no such thing as a time when everything is good, and ours shall not be the commune of Heaven.

eldritchamy
batmanego

i do desperately need everyone on this website especially people who arent american but want to rag on america to familiarize themselves with the basic romanized spelling conventions of native american languages because every day i come on here and i see people making fun of massachusetts or connecticut or mississippi or passamaquoddy or mashpee or nipissing and its like PLEASE. PLEASE THEY ARENT ENGLISH WORDS. PLEAAAAASEEEEEUUUHHH. USE YOUR MINDS TO IDENTIFY WHEN A WORD LOOKS LIKE IT MAY NOT BE ENGLISH. I DONT CARE IF YOU MAKE FUN OF AMERICA JUST PLEASE STOP BEING RACIST WHILE YOU DO IT

there are so many better targets! we have a town called coitus for fucks sake!!! AND CLIMAX
eldritchamy
absansombre

BG3 romance poll time.

Which companion are you less likely to romance and why?

Gale

Karlach

Astarion

Minthara

Halsin

Lae'zel

Shadowheart

Gale gale gale gale gale gale its gale Not with a ten-foot pole Listen. Listen. He sounds and talks like several of my sister's scumbag exes I just. I can't I categorically cannot find him attractive because all I can picture is the annoying faux-leftist dudebros that cheated on my sister I no longer despise him because he fundamentally ISN'T like them. But he SOUNDS like them. And I cannot get past that. I can see WHY people like him but. I do not. not like that at least. I think his romance is cute but I cannot The 'pushy Gale' bugs also were a huge turn-off I like my romances opt-IN not opt-OUT Thank fuck I turned him down early. But then Wyll blindsided me by dancing like a fabulous motherfucking peacock. turning him down hurt me If - like me - Wyll's absence made you concerned: OP did it to prevent people from being dicks about him (as they are wont to be) Personally I WOULD 100% romance Wyll. I like him! He's charming! He's kind! He's goddamn pretty - with or without horns! Otherwise: Halsin and Laezel are low on my list for various reasons but I'd do it if I was planning on more playthroughs The ones I WANT to romance are Shadowheart and (currently romancing) Karlach. Because I am gay for women.
cosmictiddies
pyrrhadves

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rocket-69
foone

Your posts are in an AI model

and then Tumblr decided to sell them to AI models.

Now, don't get me wrong, tumblr selling out the users to AI companies is bad, yes, they shouldn't do that. It sucks.

but don't lets get this confused: your posts were already in there. Tumblr selling them is about tumblr making some money and about the AI models having more exhaustive post collections. It's not about your posts being in an AI model, vs not being in one. That battle has already been lost.

Can you find your post on google? Then it's almost certainly in an AI model already. Think about it: These AI sites showed up before all the sites were making deals to sell their users' content, right? How do you think they built them in the first place?

They scraped the posts. Just like google and bing and such do when they build their search indexes.

It's a fundamental part of how the open web works: you want your posts on tumblr to be visible to users, right? You want them to be readable?* Like, look how much stuff broke when twitter changed their whole read-while-not-logged-in policy, ruining a bunch of thread links/NSFW links. And if it's visible, it's scrapable. That's what the AI models were built on.

I've done website scraping before (not for AI models, of course. I was doing search engines and website archival), this is just how it works. You hire a few relatively smart CS graduates and tell them "build me a scraper that'll give us a bunch of tumblr posts" and they go off for a month or two and come back with a database of a few billion posts, and you stuff that into your AI model. That's how they got all the deviantart and flickr and twitter and pinterest and so on posts. They didn't pay for them: they just took them.

They only ever pay for this shit because either:

  1. they fucked up in such a way that the site might be able to sue them for taking rather than paying
  2. They can buy them cheaper than they can finish taking them. Maybe they'd need to pay the CS grads for an extra month? well, that might be more expensive than just throwing the site a couple hundred thousand bucks.


ANYWAY: my point is, don't treat this "oh no tumblr is selling our posts to AI" like it's a big thing that might happen and it would be bad to happen. Yes, it's bad, tumblr shouldn't do this, this'll let AI models get continual updates of content for far easier than just scraping them would be, tumblr betrayed user trust, and so on...

but realistically, this is not a black and white matter of "if only tumblr didn't do this, then we'd be safe from AI models!"

Nope. We already lost that battle. I'm sorry, and it does suck, but that's just how it is. The avalanche has already started, it's too late for the pebbles to vote.

* I'm assuming here that you don't run a private blog that's set to only followers or something. You'd be safer then, of course, but you're not really my target audience for this rant

foone

I guess my point is: Don't freak out about this being a big thing that you're gonna have to fight to stop. Having anxiety over this is not useful. Instead, you need to realize that this battle is already lost, and reconsider your strategy from there.

I'm not saying "you need to give up and let AI companies take everything you make and do whatever they want with it". I'm saying that the specific battle of stopping AI models from getting your posts is a lost one.

So rethink your strategy: What else can be done? Can we limit what the companies do with our data? Can we stop them completely? Can/should we change where we post artwork to keep it from getting acquired by AI models in future? Does this need a political solution (like "ban generative AI"), not an individual solution from artists?

All those are options you could look at and decide on, plus I'm sure there's tons more I haven't thought of. I'm not trying to tell you want to do, just saying that you should choose your battles, and when choosing battles, don't choose one that is already lost.